Will I befriend the neighborhood crows?
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Dec 31
75%
Crows come for food immediately/rapidly upon call >50% of the time
72%
Crows very clearly recognize me when I'm out of my apartment (coming near me, cawing, etc)
61%
Crow hang-out spot on my balcony (they linger at least a couple times for longer than the time it takes them to eat)
59%
Crows exhibit "begging" behavior toward me, making special motions or noises to ask for food
43%
Crows eat next to me while I'm within a few feet of them (previously: on the balcony with them)
25%
Will I get a crow to eat out of my hand?
Resolved
YES
Crows will eat generally in my presence with the balcony door open
Resolved
YES
Crows bring me an unambiguous gift

Background:

I have been attempting to befriend the neighborhood crows. I have been leaving food for them and whistling to get their attention. They don't always hang about in the courtyard of my building, but I can usually see a couple off in the distance, and they're out and about every day. I think that someone else in my apartment complex, on the far side of the courtyard, is also feeding them, and currently, they have a hangout spot on that other balcony, which I am jealous of.

I currently feed them cat kibble. My balcony is fairly small, so for me to be out there with them, they'd be about 4-5 feet away from me. They come right after I call about 1/4 of the time, I would say. The rest of the time, they stop by later to quickly take the food I have left for them.

Please feel free to suggest new options, give advice on how to befriend the crows, etc.

Criteria:

Each option that occurs by the end of the year resolves YES. Each that does not resolves NO at the end of the year.

I reserve the right to resolve options to 50/50 or another probability if there is gray area, but I will try fairly hard to avoid this.

I will not bet in this market.

  • Update 2025-05-24 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has amended an option in this market.

    • This amendment was made because the creator is no longer allowed to feed crows on their balcony.

    • The creator indicates the amended option is intended to capture the same spirit as the original.

  • Update 2025-05-24 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): In response to a user, the creator provided clarification for an option, likely related to crows visiting the balcony, given the new restriction on feeding them there:

    • This option remains in the market because it could still resolve YES.

    • This might happen if the crows recognize the creator and still come to the balcony, potentially to entice the creator to go for a walk to feed them.

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Have you noticed any of the crows having distinct recognisable physical/personality traits? If so naming becomes a possibility haha

@bens This one I'm leaving, since if the crows recognize me, they might still come to my balcony--perhaps to entice me to go for a walk to feed them

@bens I amended this option slightly since I am no longer allowed to feed them on the balcony, but I think this captures the same spirit

@bens this might be close… I’m gonna wait and see if they actually recognize me as the same person that’s IN the apartment when I’m outside of it… but looks promising.

I have been feeding the crows from the parking structure across the street now after my apt complex banned bird feeding.

I got a gift today! While walking back across the street, one of the crows flew to the pile of food, picked up a piece of food, and then flew back over me and dropped it almost right on top of me!

I think it was a pretty unambiguous gesture!

Did some illicit crow feeding today. One crow came upon my whistle and then ate while I watched it from right on the other side of the glass (with my cat also watching from even closer). They wouldn't have let me get this close a couple weeks ago!

@bens oh hell yeah we're back! 🐦‍⬛🐦‍⬛🐦‍⬛

@shankypanky unfortunately that was the end of illicit crow feeding, because the apt complex sent out an email to all residents, formalizing the policy... I'm now doing it on CROW-WALKS

Bad news... busybody neighbor complained and the apartment complex says I can't feed birds. Working on a response.

@bens I'm sad :(

😭

@bens I'm upset >:(

@bens first answer resolved YES and it was the one that the market gave the highest probability to, 89%!!!

I sat about 15 feet away with the balcony door open and two crows (or perhaps one crow twice?) came and fed while very clearly noting my presence. I did my food whistle a couple times to put it at ease.

@bens Got pretty close to this just now. I was sitting at my dining table about 10 feet away; a crow saw me and very cautiously ate; I averted eye contact to not spook it. This is the closest they've let me stay without leaving. Door closed though.

Right after I whistled this morning, a crow did a fly-by, but took a detour to troll this dog across the courtyard first for a couple minutes before coming to my balcony to eat. I think this counts as “coming immediately/rapidly for food” and I’m gonna start a rough rolling average of how often this happens.

Gf set up Crowcam1

Big problem... my cat loves to scare the crows. I try to keep her in my office when I feed them but the crows are coming irregularly so I can't keep her under lock and key all the time. Today she ran at the window right when there were two crows enjoying some kibble... and they got spooked. This is really bad for building up trust.

I'm gonna try to get a feeder on the railing so that they are more elevated and feel more secure?

@bens wait I forgot you had a cat, given that if the cat reaches the crows it's a very long and torturous death for them, unless you are very confident that the door will remain similarly closed in future incidents, I would unfortunately have to recommend immediately ending the experiment, friendship shouldn't put the friend's life in danger

This morning, a crow flew back and forth right in front of my (home) office window to look at me, in a u-shaped pattern, if that makes sense? It was quite cool! I thought it might be asking for food so I ran out to the balcony and put out the bowl of food which we had taken inside bc of rain. But it didn’t come back for the food 🤷‍♂️

That would have qualified as begging if it had gone for the food immediately, I think? But perhaps it was just inspecting me for its own purposes.

Okay, more crows came after I posted that last comment. I initially thought one of them was ALREADY exhibiting begging behavior, but I think that it might have just been cawing at other crows to come and check out the new food I put into the bowl. The crows do not like the newer, cheaper cat food (I can't keep giving them the fancy expensive cat food), and left that behind. Hopefully they'll come and try it tomorrow.

In any case, cautious optimism that they might be starting to come and call for me to bring food.

Today I got somewhere between 3 and 5 crows. I tried a mixture of kibble and peanuts but the crows were not interested in the peanuts. They seemed to take a little more time to eat today, but hard to tell.

I want to:

1) figure out a way of mounting the food onto the railing of the balcony so the crows feel more comfortable and don’t have to jump down into the balcony

2) set up a crow-cam (my gf who is more tech savvy should do this for me and I think we have a cat cam that can be converted for this)

3) see if I can leave the crows shiny things they’ll like

@bens do you plan to do anything specifically to nurture this one, or would it be a matter of them recognising you purely out of context? just wondering if you plan to bring snacks/kibble/nuts with you when you're outside of the apartment and offer it to them in another place/in passing.

@shankypanky hmm, I want to try walks with some food but unsure if I can do this consistently enough that the crows will bother giving me attention

I wish you luck, bird friends are fun. At one point I had some scrub jays that would take peanuts from your hand. This was multiple generations ago though, given the current presence of avian influenza and west nile I haven’t felt compelled to retrain them.

@GleamingRhino I have friends with Steller's Jays that do this in their backyard! they send me videos regularly and I'm riddled with envy lol

sold Ṁ14 YES

There is an area not far from me where birds will eat out of your hand. It is delightful!

I do not think I would want a crow eating out of my hand though. smaller birbs better

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